Monday, November 20, 2006

Update on the "Lumpy" Case

It appears that the young man who attempted to rob Greg "Lumpy" Lambert that I posted about here is a suspect in another Tennessee murder (Hat tip: KnoxViews):

Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison says a man who allegedly tried to rob Knox County Commissioner Greg Lambert is a suspect in the murder of a Walgreens truck driver.

Sheriff Hutchison made the announcement today at the commission meeting.

Hutchison says he will ask a grand jury to indict 19-year-old Kane Stackhouse on murder charges Tuesday.

So far Stackhouse has not been charged with anything in connection with the murder of 53-year-old David Lindsey behind the Walgreens in Powell early in the morning on November 11th.

Stackhouse had not even been named a suspect until Monday.

But Stackhouse is charged with attempted robbery for allegedly pulling a gun on Commissioner Lambert about ten hours after Lindsey was found dead.

Deputies say Lambert foiled the alleged robbery by pulling a gun on Stackhouse.


Perhaps Mr. Lambert's quick thinking and act of self-defense saved other victims from further harm. Perhaps my hometown PC alternative rag The MetroPulse will eat the words they used in this sad editorial that described Mr. Lambert as a "clown" and his act of bravery as one of recklessness. What do they consider to be acceptable behavior when confronted with a gunman, groveling on the floor?

21 Comments:

Blogger tomcal said...

Lumpy the gun toting Commissioner rocks!!

7:37 PM, November 20, 2006  
Blogger g said...

"Perhaps my hometown PC alternative rag The MetroPulse will eat the words they used in this sad editorial..."

Wouldn't hold my breath!!!

8:22 PM, November 20, 2006  
Blogger John R said...

I love it when civic leaders lead by example.

He done good (I can say it that way, I'm from Texas). He not only probaly saves his own life, he saved the lives of others that may have crossed Stackhouse's path.

9:18 PM, November 20, 2006  
Blogger DADvocate said...

In the words of a real clown, "Vedy, vedy interesting." Lumpy did what any citizen has the right to do. In the process he helped catch a possible murderer and most likely prevented other violence, murders and robberies.

The sanctimonious, self-rightous words of the Pulse sure ring hollow now. I wish I still lived in Knox County just to vote for Lumpy next time he's up for election.

11:13 PM, November 20, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Along as it was true self-defense with imminence, good catch.

Self-defense without imminence is not self-defense, it's assault.

2:07 AM, November 21, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>"Along as it was true self-defense with imminence, good catch.

Self-defense without imminence is not self-defense, it's assault."


Off-topic, but, someone needs to share this guidance with the Dixie (Goodbye Earl) Chicks and the rest of the domestic violence industry.

9:42 AM, November 21, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a liberal, a leftist--whatever word you wanna try to discredit me with. But I don't have a problem with guns. As I'm a single woman who will soon be living alone in probably not a great part of town, I may very well be purchasing a gun.

But I do think that people who go about spouting off about their gun-ownership, what they've done with their guns, and trying to pose like some Billy BadAss probably have some deep-seated insecurity issues.

9:58 AM, November 21, 2006  
Blogger Helen said...

Anonymous 9:58:

There is a difference between talking about self-defense and being glad that you stopped a bad guy and "posing like Billy BadAss." I am glad that Lumpy told the public what he did to stop this possible murderer. It may give others the strength to do the same. There is so much negativity surrounding guns in the media that a positive story is such an anomoly that people need to hear them. The real insecurity comes from people who are so cowardly that they try to tag a hero as a threat to make themselves feel better about taking a passive stance.

11:29 AM, November 21, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, guns are a fetish for some people. Either Guns = Freedom or Guns = Evil. It's difficult convincing members of either camp that a gun is a practical implement, not a Symbol of everything they love/hate.

To anonymous: If you don't feel safe in your neighborhood but you also don't feel safe having and using a firearm, try exploring other alternatives. If you find none and still want to get a gun, make sure you buy from a reliable dealer AND find someone experienced to teach you how to store, carry, and use it. Take a basic pistol class and a defensive shooting class if available. If you plan to take your gun out with you, take a concealed carry class and get a permit from your jurisdiction.

DO NOT just buy a pistol, load it, and stick it in your night stand drawer or under your car seat, then hope you'll know what to do when a threat occurs. It doesn't work that way. See Lumpy for how to be prepared.

If you're still uncomfortable with the idea of owning a gun, or if you're not willing or able to invest some time and effort in learning to use it properly, maybe you're really better off without one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that - millions of people lead happy, productive lives without packing iron! It should be a practical choice, not an emotional one.

12:36 PM, November 21, 2006  
Blogger TMink said...

Anon wrote: "But I do think that people who go about spouting off about their gun-ownership, what they've done with their guns, and trying to pose like some Billy BadAss probably have some deep-seated insecurity issues."

You know, we agree about the Billy BadAss being insecure. But if he (or Billie) has a gun and knows how to use it, they may live long enough to work through their issues of deep seated insecurity.

Trey

1:35 PM, November 21, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, as bugs says, it's the fetishization.

If I shot or killed a person in self-defense, I wouldn't consider that made me a hero. It would simply be a reflection of my natural instinct to live.

You make think, helen, that the publication of the story will have some positive effects (encouraging others to defend themselves?). I stongly doubt it. We can agree to disagree.

But Lumpy is no hero. And his pose for photographers suggests strongly (to me) that fetishization I was talking about and the man's desire to place himself in the role of hero.

And, yeah, I think that's wrong and silly and scary.

Thanks though for the advice, bugs. I'm not uncomfortable with the idea of having a gun in the house (no children). And I certainly intend to take a course. I admit though that the idea of carrying one around with me does disturb me. I guess I figure that regardless of any training, the chances of the gun being used against me are greater under those circumstances. I need some time and space ahead of the perp to get to the gun; I'm too small to hold my own long enough otherwise. Besides, do I really wanna carry a gun in my purse at all times?

Trey:

Maybe. And maybe they'll haul off and kill somebody in some misguided attempt to cover up their insecurities.

3:37 PM, November 21, 2006  
Blogger TMink said...

Anon wrote: "Maybe. And maybe they'll haul off and kill somebody in some misguided attempt to cover up their insecurities."

Well, that is a horse of a different color! We all have insecurities, most of us are not murderers. A gun does not a murderer make. And Catherine McKinnon aside, a penis does not a rapist make.

Trey

4:06 PM, November 21, 2006  
Blogger tomcal said...

I have owned guns and practiced with them regularly for almost my whole life. In all that time I don't think I have met one true "Billy BadAss" at a range or training event. I have seen many people, including myself, have bad gun handling habits corrected by instructors or rangemasters. I have never even seen someone take issue with having their bad habits corrected, although sometimes it does lead to a very reasoned discussion of technique.

As for Lumpy, I personally could not just carry a gun in my suit pocket, because I am always unconsciously fiddling with things in my pockets (analysis please..)but he is obviously able to do so comfortably and safely.

4:31 PM, November 21, 2006  
Blogger Noton Yalife said...

Jonathan,
It's my understanding that it was requested by the reporter.

Lumpy informed them that such a picture should ideally be made with a disabled prop weapon, but that if one was not available how you would ensure that it was done safely.

He demonstrated to both the reporter and photog how to render the weapon safe (no mag, empty chamber) and allowed both to inspect the weapon to ensure it was unloaded.

Billy Badass would not be that deliberate.

1:08 PM, November 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about liberals, anon? Do you think their fetishization of the Big Gun--i.e, the State--and their willingness to wave it around and threaten people with it shows any deep-seated insecurity? When a liberal lusts for some law to be passed that will enable him to force his will on society, is he being a Billy BadAss? Just wondering.

1:56 PM, November 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

masked menace:

From whence did you get this understanding?

bilwick:

Using the state as a weapon? The state can only be "used", a law passed, when the people have willed it, through the actions of their duly elected representatives. Your analogy is not apt. And your statements show you lack objectivity. I never said anything about conservatives.

10:24 PM, November 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The probably appropriately-named "menace" (who obviously likes weilding the Mailed Fist, or have politicians weild it on his behalf, and objects to any criticism of that) states "The state can be 'used," a law passed, when the people have willed it, through the actions of their duly elected representatives." So that contradicts what I wrote . . . how? It's still ends up with A, acting on behalf of B, forcing C to do (or not do) something. Unless the "laws" you are talking about are mere suggestions, they are still backed by force.

9:19 AM, November 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bilwick:

Oh, so you're an anarchist?

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