Ask Dr. Helen: Should Prince William wear a wedding ring?
I have a PJM column up on Prince William's wedding ring: should he wear it or not?:
You can read the column and comment here (or here, of course!).
The English street is up in arms over William's choice not to wear one.
You can read the column and comment here (or here, of course!).
Labels: PJM column
posted by Helen at 8:06 AM
30 Comments:
I also posted this on the other location. Rings are dangerous. Wearing them is forbidden in many industrial and military work sites. I wear mine now because I am retired.
It would be much more interesteing if he wore a wedding dress.
As a royal, his role is completely symbolic. As such, I think he should wear it.
Trey
I'm going with Trey on this: Seems like a good idea.
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There's another way to determine a man's marital status; kick his wife's purse and see if he doubles over.
Good one Zorro!
From a Jungian perspective, the King is supposed to marry and be fruitful so that his kingdom can do the same. Part of the problem with William's father was that he was not able to have a loving marriage, or at least an agreeable marriage, and the father remarried a woman past child bearing years.
I know the Jungian stuff is out there, but some times it seems to apply, especially about men's psychology in my experience.
Here is hoping that William has a happy and fruitful marriage and one day serves his people as a good king.
Trey
"...but, unlike my brother, who is a Freudian, I'm a Jungian. So there'll be no blaming Mother today!"
--Dr. Niles Crane
Frasier
Maybe he finds a ring uncomfortable. They can be sort of annoying and not everyone likes to wear jewellery.
Bottom line: it's his business, who cares? Not like he can go out and pretend he's single to pull girls in bars.
Wearing the ring is part of cultural tradition. So are all the privileges that are bestowed upon royalty. One who benefits so greatly from tradition would do well to honor tradition whenever possible.
I don't care.
When I say I don't care, that doesn't mean I don't care about the ring or lack there of, I mean I don't care about William, Kate, Di, Charles, and any of the other royals, although I am sure they are lovely people.
A Libertarian would say:
WHO CARES. NOT MY BUSINESS...IT IS THEIR CONCERN AND FOR THEM TO DECIDE.
Who cares what a libertarian would say? :P
Zorro, you are on a role today!
fred, you are correct. But it is ok to kick around ideas and opinions for the sake of community is it not?
Trey
"on a roll" I believe.
A role would be Hamlet.
[Grammar & Spelling Nazi from birth]
Would those "on the street" who are complaining be upset if whats-her-name decided not to change her name? Were they upset when Di kept the "Princess" even after she divorced the man that God chose as Prince (we're talking tradition here)?
I expect most of them are Cake & Eat types. I won't wear a ring because I'm not in the business of involving or bothering others with my private life. No one else needs to know I'm married, and they don't really care anyway.
If you need a ring on your finger to remind yourself not to cheat on your wife, it's probably not worth bothering. Plus, I've heard claim by certain player types that a ring can actually be a boon when looking for a one night stand. One of those strange "I can't have it so I want it" psych tricks.
it`s not the england of my youth...
...i wear my wedding ring knowing my wife wears one just like it.
there is so much image silliness going on surrounding that coupling that it is like an impending train-wreck...and as much as you would like to, you can`t look away.
Zorro, you are of course correct, thanks!
I wear my ring to honor my wife. It was her father's ring and has special meaning for her. But I agree, for anyone but a royal, it is nobody's business.
Trey
It would be much more interesteing if he wore a wedding dress
That's the protocol for the mayor of San Francisco, not a prince.
The English street is up in arms over William's choice not to wear one.
I'm thinking we should be relieved that they don't have things that are more worth being up in arms against!
I don't care about the ring or lack there of, I mean I don't care about William, Kate, Di, Charles, and any of the other royals, although I am sure they are lovely people.
Amen.
Anyway, William doesn't want to wear a ring so that he can sneak out to bars incognito, pretend he's single and pick up women. ;)
WHO CARES
No, that's one of those questions (I assume you meant it to be phrased as a question although you didn't use a question mark) you should never ask. When my kids say, "Who cares?", I tell them I do. I can't remember the last time they said that to me.
A libertarian doesn't ask it because it's beside the point. People should be free to make their own decisions about such things. Doesn't matter if you care or not.
I haven't even gotten to the question of whether the ring is important or not. I'm still back at the point of not being able to figure out why the Royals are important and why they still exist.
That's how far behind I am in my analysis of this meaningful and weighty issue.
@JG: Every country needs their Disneyland.
The UK has its royal family. If you compare/contrast the UK royal family with that of Thailand, whose royal family is 99+% revered by the population (and with good reason), you have to wonder just how vapid the average Brit lets himself become. Their royal family is a parasitic pack of entitled welfare degenerates who provide nothing remotely valuable to the population (except good entertainment when one of the royal brats dresses up as a NAZI for a costume party).
Diana was wildly overrated, but she did have some measure of class. And I have quite some time for Queen Eliz. But Charles is a closet homo and closet Muzzie who should be taken to the knackering shop, along with his horse-faced consort. Ditto for the rest of the worthless lot.
OK, so on further reading, maybe it's not that strong of a tradition.
There's no reason a libertarian wouldn't ask the question and/or offer an opinion on the issue. The only limitation imposed by being a libertarian is that one not attempt to use government to force that opinion on others. Get right people - being a libertarian doesn't mean you don't care, it means you don't force others to care that you care.
I detest wearing jewelry of all kinds. Don't wear watches, rings, necklaces. When I got engaged, one condition was that I wouldn't ever wear a ring. My wife doesn't like jewelry that much either, so it wasn't an issue. She has a single, simple wedding band.
I wonder if there's a genetic component. Of my four children, my oldest has several piercings but isn't a huge fan of rings or necklaces. The second will wear necklaces on occasion, but I've never seen him wear a ring or watch. The youngest two won't wear any jewelry.
Oh, and I detest wearing ties as well.
I am siding with Fred, "WHO CARES." If the British want to support a royal family, let them piss away their own money.
Actually, I find the thought of "royalty" and being born into royalty because some horsey-faced woman and some semi-retarded inbred male bumped uglies and produced an entitled child, quite repulsive.
Who in the hell do these phony
British royals think they are, THE KENNEDY'S?
I don't understand people in society who want to FURTHER the wealth or fame or worship or whatever of people who are born into a more advantageous situation.
Why?
There are people in England who *worship* the Royal family - for God knows what reason - and there are people in the United States who *worship* anyone with money, no matter how he or she got it. I've even seen fawning obsequience to lotto winners that wasn't based on a desire to get some of their money. Because they are smarter than you and me.
Wouldn't it be refreshing if he didn't want a ring in order to save the expense? Never happen. There is no incentive for frugality when you are spending other people's money.
who cares what the English press think? If he said he WAS going to wear a ring, they'd probably call hin a "slave to tradition" or something.
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