Wednesday, June 15, 2011

"No one asked questions when her last husband died."

I was reading the Washington Examiner in DC this morning and saw a story about a woman who left five dead husbands in five different states over decades. I looked the story up online and found this story about her case:

To the outside world, Betty Neumar was a diminutive Georgia grandmother with a shock of white hair who operated beauty shops, attended church and raised money for charity. No one asked questions when her last husband died.

It wasn't until North Carolina investigators in 2008 reopened a 25-year-old murder case that the dark secrets of her past began to unravel. Police discovered that Neumar had left behind a decades-long trail of five dead husbands in five states.

Authorities in the story didn't seem to try too hard to catch this woman or look too deeply into the "suicides" of two of the husbands or her son who she collected insurance money off of. Apparently this woman isolated the men from their families and no one seemed to care much.

I wonder how many murdered men have been unaccounted for in the crime statistics. As Warren Farrell points out in his book The Myth of Male Power,

17 Comments:

Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

Yikes!

9:32 AM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

Warren Farrel or Herb Goldberg, it doesn't matter.

Men know women's gripes. 50 years of it.

Lay of the land.

9:37 AM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger Cham said...

Whether anyone wants to agree with me or not, we have a big problem when it comes to marriage in this country as it pertains to isolation. Our culture seems to encourage couples to dump their friends, and their extended family, the minute they get married. Married people socialize less, and married men almost don't socialize at all. America thinks this is all okay. Consequently, people in bad marriages suffer greatly. In this case the wife freely ended several husband's lives and nobody noticed because she had implemented socially approved isolation. Marriage gets weirder every day.

79 years old, I say Ms. Neumar did a fine job of getting away with it. I don't see how someone can die of 2 bullet wounds and nobody performs an autopsy.

9:51 AM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger Dunkelzahn4prez said...

Cham said...
Whether anyone wants to agree with me or not, we have a big problem when it comes to marriage in this country as it pertains to isolation. Our culture seems to encourage couples to dump their friends, and their extended family, the minute they get married. Married people socialize less, and married men almost don't socialize at all. America thinks this is all okay. Consequently, people in bad marriages suffer greatly. In this case the wife freely ended several husband's lives and nobody noticed because she had implemented socially approved isolation. Marriage gets weirder every day.


Cham, this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself almost entirely agreeing with you. The end must be near. ;-)

I'm not so sure it's necessarily society or culture that has married men becoming socially isolated. Here, this lady apparently cut her husbands/murder victims off from their families as part of her M.O. However, this happens to married men in less drastic circumstances. The motivations aren't necessarily to get away with murder, but there are men who get bullied or manipulated away from their extended families as a power or domination play by their wives, because she wants all his attention for herself and his extended family gets in the way of that, or other reasons. The man wants to make his wife happy, or receive approval from his wife, so he goes along with it.

11:04 AM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger Ern said...

But it's okay for a woman to murder members of her family. Just ask Anna Quindlen:

http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0107/nw010702.htm

11:17 AM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger GawainsGhost said...

Anyone who thinks this hasn't been going on for a long time is delusional.

It's the Wife of Bath all over again. A fat, gap toothed, old hag on the road to Canterbury to ask for forgiveness and indulgences for her sins, along the way she tells her tale. We come to learn that she had been serially marrying widowers and wealthy old men, and basically, well, fucking them to death to inherit their money and land. Now, she's rich and on a pilgrimage.

Same song, second verse, it doesn't get better but it does get worse.

12:09 PM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger br549 said...

You know, I have come to hate hind sight with a passion.

7:42 PM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger Epic Fail said...

Oh, but she's the "real victim," didn't you know?

9:14 PM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger DADvocate said...

Ern - Ann Quindlen's disgusting. Yeah, Andrea Yates killed her family because 5 kids under 7 was just too much. Hmm. I had an aunt who had 12 kids in 12 years. The oldest had cerebral palsy. So, at one point, she had 6 kids under seven, plus 6 kids seven and older with the oldest being severely handicapped. She didn't kill anyone.

The sympathy for evil, non-killing and evil, killing women is sickening. If feminists were intellectually honest they'd be outraged by this attitude that portrays women as being so weak, powerless and unable to control their lives that they need to be pitied under all circumstances. But, no, they fully support this image of weakness.

11:17 PM, June 15, 2011  
Blogger TMink said...

All encompasing excuses, like "racism" or "patriarchy" lead to moral decline. It is like a drug, nothing is your fault, so no guilt, shame, or remorse. No regrets, not morals. In that way, feminism and progressivism are just a new dressing on immorality.

Trey

9:07 AM, June 16, 2011  
Blogger Dunkelzahn4prez said...

TMink said...
All encompasing excuses, like "racism" or "patriarchy" lead to moral decline. It is like a drug, nothing is your fault, so no guilt, shame, or remorse. No regrets, not morals. In that way, feminism and progressivism are just a new dressing on immorality.

Trey

9:07 AM, June 16, 2011


Well said.

10:51 AM, June 16, 2011  
Blogger BobH said...

TMink said...

All encompasing excuses, like "racism" or "patriarchy" lead to moral decline. It is like a drug, nothing is your fault, so no guilt, shame, or remorse. No regrets, not morals. In that way, feminism and progressivism are just a new dressing on immorality.

It really is a 3-part problem: (1) convincing yourself that you're a "good" person; (2) convincing others that you're a good person; (3) manipulating and exploiting others for your own benefit, i.e., behaving like a "bad" person. Convincing others that you're a good person is easier and more efficient when you believe it yourself and also is necessary at some level to reduce being avoided by potential victims.

So people manipulate their own attributional beliefs until all three of the above can be accomplished. The current liberal definitions of "racism" and "sexism" just allow People of Color and women to viciously attack whites and men while still thinking of themselves as being wonderfully caring and giving. If these definitions cause people to behave like manipulative hypocrites, that's OK, because obviously whites and men "deserve" to be attacked. That's what being a "victim" is all about.

11:56 AM, June 16, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

To be a victim is to be privileged.

3:07 PM, June 16, 2011  
Blogger Cham said...

I've become mesmerized in the last week about the fascination over Casey Anthony. I don't really care about killers, I live in a city with thousands of them, people are killed every day. Yet Casey Anthony allegedly killed her 3 year old daughter years ago and the mother hens don't have much less to cackle about. Here is the reason:

When you are a mommy our culture considers you a God, or perhaps a couple of steps over God. Mommies are given lots of power. The trick to being a mom, all moms, is to always appear all goodness and sweetness so nothing can threaten the power and control they all feel they wield. Unfortunately, Casey Anthony didn't do this, she killed her daughter and then went to the club. Casey broke the mommy rules. Now all the other mommies are enraged, Casey Anthony has threatened their game.

6:51 AM, June 17, 2011  
Blogger Quasimodo said...

Our culture seems to encourage couples to dump their friends, and their extended family, the minute they get married.

This is pure BS. Of Course. What kind of Neanderthals do you consider "Our Culture?"

8:46 AM, June 17, 2011  
Blogger Cham said...

Quasimodo: May I bring your attention to the blogpost:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/living-single/201101/if-you-are-single-will-you-grow-old-alone-results-6-nations

Buried in it is one sentence that references the results of the study regarding people keeping a private restricted social network:

The second number for each nation is the percentage of married men with no children who have private restricted networks. These men mostly rely on their spouse and no one else.

The percentage of married men that have a social network in the US that only includes their spouse and no one else is 30%.

9:04 AM, June 17, 2011  
Blogger Factory said...

Helen, the world doesn't even notice when a man burns himself to death on a Family Court steps, why would they care about a man (or men) being quietly murdered?

A man self-immolates on a New Hampshire Court steps, and no one even hears about it.

That is the kind of society we live in, and that is why this woman got away with it.

3:09 PM, June 19, 2011  

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