Wednesday, September 07, 2011

"Feminism can be thought of as like a corporation."

Barbara Oakley, author of Cold-Blooded Kindness, is interviewed at Times Higher Education:

"Feminism can be thought of as like a corporation. It's interested in its constituents. Well-meaning feminists are often trained only to see a certain way, only to support their constituents. That is partly what underlies the spurious research on battered-woman syndrome. Anyone who questions whether battered women are only simple victims is put in the pillory and crucified."

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19 Comments:

Blogger Cham said...

I'm going to disagree with you, Helen. I'm a feminist, and I'm not so quick to buy into the woman-as-victims-100%-of-the-time theory.

Feminists are generally well-meaning but there is a group out there that isn't, that will support what is good for them not matter what. And that group is suburban married/divorced women. These ladies can only see beyond the end of their own nose, any detractors are given the dysfunctional swarm treatment immediately. Scary.

6:55 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

Cham said, with a smirk in her eye and a curl on the corner of her lips, "Feminists are generally well-meaning..."

...and the rest of the human population fell over convulsing with mirth and laughter.

And Nazis are well-meaning.

And Klansmen have hearts that are filled with love.

And Cham, darling that we all know her to be, just jumped the shark like Bruce Jenner mated with Serena Williams and gave birth to nuclear sarcasm baby.

I'm sorry.

This is one of my drinking days.

Night shift.

8:44 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger SGT Ted said...

Feminism isn't like a corporation. It's more like a political religious order.

9:47 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger redrajesh said...

Feminism is like islam...plain and simple

9:56 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger Rhael said...

Criminal organizations are usually well-meaning. They devote their efforts to acquire money to survive a money based world when jobs are not an option.

11:23 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger dr.alistair said...

feminism is an indocrtination, plain and simple...and as such becomes an ideology.

as with any ideology, it's adherents become blinkered and obtuse, and unreasonable in debate.

my wife is a social worker with a masters in psychology and is surrounded by masters in social work, which is basically a cult of feminists who believe that family is women and their children, who need to be protected from abusive men...and these people are at the helm of an agency that is supposed to be helping families on the street.

in many counties in ontario the MSW is the only accreditation that the employer will accept into children's aid and no other equally qualified applicants are considered...and so the agency actively marginalised the men in distressed family situations, removing them form homes, criminalising them and removing benefits if they are present.

my wife was hired initially with the understanding that she would get her MSW, but as she said, she couldn't deal with the feminist position throughout the course work as marginalising men.

my wife worked in an agency that ran support groups for men who had ben charged with violence toward women and the agency she worked for eventually made it impossible to continue the work, as they felt that it would stigmatise their agency by working with criminals.

oh yeah, and feminism leads directly to lesbianism. more than three quarters of the MSW staff of the agency where my wife works is lesbian qnd the director of the agency is a gay man.

you just have to laugh.

11:46 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger dr.alistair said...

though, in their defence, many women say they are feminist, but don't understand the first thing about what the movement is really about.

11:48 AM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger Oligonicella said...

You've heard the phrase "eat their own"?

It wasn't coined to describe wild animals.
That's just something we tell women.

12:12 PM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger kmg said...

I'm with ZorroPrimo here.

Cham is just trying to distance herself because she knows the backlash against feminism is imminent. I see this every day, the 'I am not like other feminists' tired old tactic.

Most of the women who are feminists today can fairly be described as evil. That is not a classification I use lightly.

If Cham wants to convince anyone, she should start campaigning against misandry in the judicial system. Or make a donation to A Voice for Men Radio.

11:46 PM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger kmg said...

I am very glad to see :

1) The growing number of men condemning misandry.
2) The harder tone that each man is taking.
3) More women getting worried and starting to say 'feminism is not like that' or 'I am not like other feminists'.

The trends are moving against evil.

11:48 PM, September 07, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

The DNA of feminism is this: Woman = Good / Man = Bad.

That's it. That's all it ever was.

They never wanted equality, just more power and resources.

Gender feminism. Equality feminism. Parity feminism. Environmental feminism. Pornography feminism. Secular feminism. Humanist feminism. Wave 1, 2 or 2.75...

It's all a smoke screen to mask the stench of man-hating.

If you want to start a movement, you need a villain, and the male of the species has been exploited for the past 50 years without thought or mercy.

I'm sick of this "rise of women" bullschnitzle. There is no rise of women, just the systematic demonization and marginalization of men.

And, kiddies, are we ever going to pay for it.

12:43 AM, September 08, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

One other detail: It's awefully telling when people like Cham or Barbara Oakley use the expression, "well-meaning feminists."

You now have to qualify the difference between a "well-meaning" feminist...and the other 99.78%.

That alone should tell you how few people actually believe this social benevolence bullshit anymore.

1:09 AM, September 08, 2011  
Blogger BobH said...

Whether there are well-meaning feminists depends on your definition of feminism. I think it was Warren Farrell that said that the real definition of feminism was "the belief that women should have options and men should have obligations". This definition is certainly more predictive of the real world, in a variety of domains. It also means that that this bullshit about men and women being treated equally is just that, bullshit, and that there are no "well meaning feminists".

3:09 PM, September 08, 2011  
Blogger br549 said...

One can always go Gault on women. Many of us have. As long as I have a heel to turn on, I shall go Gault on everything necessary. I want to see how many women make it as it becomes every man for himself.

It is obvious that without the law and the courts and warped public opinion (manipulated, of course) that eventually it may well become every woman for herself.

It's that damned vagina, I'm telling you. If you can get over that hurdle, the rest is easy.

6:57 AM, September 10, 2011  
Blogger ZorroPrimo said...

This should be interesting:

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/index.php/debates/men-are-finished/

Hanna Rosin takes on Christina Hoff-Somers.

I've seen Hoff-Somers on YouTube, and I've seen Rosin. Rosin had better have her game on, because there are two things you cannot hang on Hoff-Somers: She ain't stupid, and she ain't uninformed.

I hope Hoff-Somers puts Rosin and her misandrist horseshit into an early grave.

8:31 AM, September 10, 2011  
Blogger dr.alistair said...

in a post industrial society men are finished.

does that mean we are free to go?

3:17 PM, September 10, 2011  
Blogger Cham said...

Dr Alistair, we are all free to go. That means we don't have to placate all the narcissists, the BPDs, the passive aggressive manipulators, the OCDs, the ADHDs and all the other nutjobs of the opposite sex in the form of romantic partners. The only people left is a very unhappy Maggie Gallagher and her ilk.

3:13 PM, September 11, 2011  
Blogger dr.alistair said...

i wasn't referring to you cham...

4:35 PM, September 13, 2011  
Blogger kmg said...

Cham you don't get it.

Society is heavily dependent on male labor. If men no longer have to do the grimy, dangerous, and unpleasant jobs that keep society functioning, women will suffer more than men.

Women are not the ones keeping the lights on, the oil changed, and the criminals away.

7:37 PM, September 14, 2011  

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